Thursday, June 25, 2009

Series:Co-Authoring for Lazy and Informative Two-Somes



Forget the Four C’s that all the jewelry stores hype. A good co-writing relationship also has 4 C’s, but it’s a heck of a lot less expensive than a diamond.
  • Communication
  • Cooperation
  • Commitment
  • Comic Relief

And this isn’t just our warped perspective on the world. We interviewed thousands of writers (well, maybe more like 30) with different experience levels to get their perspectives on their experiences with co-writing. We asked about process, preferences, issues, pluses and minuses, and at the end of the day, it came down to those four keys.

In the first article we discussed why writing with a partner is attractive as well as what factors were important in choosing your fan fiction lifemate. In our second edition, we delve more into what happens in the actual writing relationship. To some extent, getting started with a partner relies on instincts. Kind of like when your first start dating, and you both automatically turn your head to the same side while kissing. It results in bumping noses or knocking teeth. Over time you learn how your partner will react, and the awkwardness of first tries falls away.

Now that we all have you thinking about your first time, we need to remind you, this isn’t Manyafandom’s Smut 101….back on course lovelies, we are talking about co-writing here. Smut is just one potential by-product.

Some of the more die hard Breakfast at Tiffany’s readers found this out first hand when we challenged them to team up to send the story off in style. Twelve of our readers were paired up to write “crackfic” epilogues of how they thought BAT should end. They all appeared to fall into the process without complication, and out of that experience, what they gained was more than belly laughs, they established great relationships. At root, that’s really what co-writing is all about. So what happens here is both a look at logistics of writing but also in maintaining a positive working environment.

Communication

First and foremost is communication (T feels like she could write a dissertation on this subject. Oh wait, she already has) (H’s note to T – your doctorate is showing, Professor). Communication is obviously a very broad topic, and often becomes a catch all when people refer to success or failure in relationships. We’re going to be talking more specifically about the relational aspects of communication including conflict management in our next article, so this one focuses more on logistics and the foundation.

It’s easy to assume that when we say communication we are referring to how you provide feedback on the story, schedule updates, and that sort of thing. But in reality, communication runs much deeper.
It’s about how you outline the thought; craft the characters; even enhance the story. Without honest and effective communication, a story can go directions where one author might be uncomfortable.

One of the questions we asked the writing partners we interviewed was about the actual construction or writing process. We assumed there would be a diversity of approaches from alternating POV’s to alternating partners to writing by section, but in the end, the majority of writing partners followed a very similar pattern: alternating POV by chapter.

Ultimately, the reason behind this is that it probably creates the most seamless transition and leads to the most cohesive “voice” for the reader. In addition, it also allows the writers to be more objective in reading each others’ sections. If one writer is the authority of Bella’s voice, for example, it becomes easier to negotiate challenging dialogue.

If the piece is written in third person, merging “voice” or sections often creates a more difficult challenge. This is where similarity of writing style and communication about plot direction are essential. For Breakfast at Tiffany’s we alternated POV’s in the same chapter, and we got to a point where there was very little change needed to the “voices’ of each character because we’ve become more familiar with each other’s writing. T says there are even times when it isn’t clear who the narrator of the section is from the get go she may have a hard time telling who exactly wrote it.

In addition to determining how you will do the alternating itself, there are other logistical elements that require you to be on the same page:

1. Who starts?
o Sometimes, this will be obvious. The plot is best illustrated by beginning the story or a section with a particular POV. For us, there were times when it was just preference or an idea, or it was someone’s “turn.” And truth be told, we did flip a coin once.

2. How long should it take?
o If you’ve developed a rough outline, you should know approximately how many chapters you will have. Do you have a target for when you will complete your fic? How often will you update? When someone sends a section or a chapter to the other author, what kind of turn around should be expected?

3. How much do you want to know in advance versus surprising each other?
o We’ve said before that in the beginning, we were high on the drug of anticipation. The story evolved because we didn’t’ know what was coming next from the other person. On the other hand, when we got deeper into the plot, we had to discuss the specifics more so that it was in alignment with character development and because more of the plot was already on the table.

4. Revisions
o Emibella has been doing a style series and has show mark up’s of how revisions go. Communication is key in the revision process. This is about voice consistency, plot coherency, and grammatical competency (We’re really working the C’s, and no, we don’t mean Carlisle).

As Billy Joel sang, honesty is such a lonely word. Constructive criticism of content is even more so, and requires a depth of trust and respect on top of the ability to say ‘I’m not so sure about that part.’ We’ve all read stories where we’ve been surprised by something, and were challenged to leave a constructive review. Take that a level deeper, and think about doing that during the writing process. It suddenly becomes a heck of a lot more personal.

You need to be able to tell that person, “No, I don’t like that” or “Maybe we should do it this way” without fear of hurting their feelings. You need to be 100% happy with your finished product, and the only way to ensure that is to talk about it and make it happen.


A few times we would have minor disagreements on how a particular plot line should go, but we resolved them pretty quickly by just talking it out. If one of us wrote something in a chapter concerning someone else's main character, we would just defer to their suggestions on how they would want their character to act since they knew them best.


It’s a daunting task, but once you figure out the balance and trust, the reward is phenomenal. Both of us truly believe that our writing is better in a tag team situation. We can push each other and evolve story lines at a level deeper than we can in an author/beta relationship. And to be honest, it has helped our author/beta relationship as well.

Cooperation

According to Dictionary.com (the world’s most credible source), a system is an assemblage or combination of things or parts forming a complex or unitary whole. This encompasses anything from an auto making factory, to a biological function to a human relationship. Systems theory illustrates the fabulous concept of synergy—the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. It makes total sense if you’re building a car.
We’d all much rather have the final product than just an engine, but what does it mean for a collaboration?

In human groups or networks, we know that what people can produce with others is typically better than what most individuals can create on their own. It might not feel that way when you are working with a bunch of yahoos on a school project, or waiting for members of your work team to demonstrate they were hired for something other than testing your patience. That’s because the exception to the rule is that a superior individual can outperform an average group.

In fic writing, it makes sense, then that collaborations can be so effective. Ultimately, it brings out the best in each individual writer, thus making the whole greater than the sum of the parts.

I know I can get the help I need to get back on track if I get stuck, just as Kino knows the same.


Sometimes you have to meet in the middle for the best result to happen, even if you don’t want to.


Very much like the concept of an assembly line, you can develop the framework of an idea. Your writing partner can build on that framework, giving it details that you never would have thought of. By melding two or more minds, creativity feeds creativity, allowing for greater depth and potential.

Commitment

In the first article, we discussed what it takes to find someone who is the perfect match. So you find that life mate, but how committed are you to seeing it through good times and bad? We discussed how life demands, time zones, and divergent interests can create difficulties in working with a partner. Those are all things you can plan around to an extent.

Sometimes, life throws you unexpected curveballs. The kinds of demands that totally block the ability to write. Are both partners committed to the collaboration to the extent that you’re willing to wait?

This is an easy one. Tami got pregnant about halfway through the writing of Going for the Gold and while it would naturally have some impact on the story, Tami had a lot more difficult pregnancy than anyone was anticipating. She was really very sick through most of it, and she tried to write through it, like the trooper she was, but there were definitely some delays. Our readers were very patient, for the most part, and I am happy to say that Tami did have her baby and everything is great.


Unfortunately, not every fic is well met. Maybe you’ll have a very slow build in interest, or worse yet, people might not like the idea or the writing. Can you weather that kind of storm? From article one, we said that communicating expectations was key. But it’s also important to do sanity checks along the way to test your commitment level. If one person’s interest is starting to wane, it’s important to take some time to discuss it. Are you both still invested? Would a break help? Or do you need to commit to a solid day of writing to re-capture what you liked in the first place?

Comic Relief

Let’s be honest, the potential for great writing isn’t the reason most people start collaborating. When we asked writers about the reasons for collaborating or favorite experiences, laughter and how much they liked their partner came up time and time again. We couldn’t agree more. There’s no greater reason to collaborate with someone than the fact that at the end of the day, it’s fun.

It’s easy to become so focused on the task that you fail to note how important “fun” is to the experience. Both our own anecdotes and those from other partners shows that’s what people remember the most from their collaborations.

We laugh ourselves silly at our own writing when we edit our chapters. Like loud, belly aching laughter. And we're proud of it!


We got together for lunch at Jack in the Box and fleshed out the meat of the story over food. There was a lot of note taking and laughter and “OOH! That’s perfect …” or “Maybe we could do it this way …” I’m sure the other patrons thought we were nuts. Two mid-twenty something girls should have that much fun in public more often.


I was reading one of her stories on ff.net and Aly mentioned in an update that she was looking for a beta. I pm'ed her that I would like to do it so we started emailing back and forth. One weekend we were talking about how hot it was where we lived and it sort of played out that we live in the same town, are about the same age, both went to the same college, and worked for similar companies. It was crazy! No wonder we get along so well, we're practically clones! hahaha! But we met up and chatted and get along really well. And she took me to the place with the best smoked brisket in the f'ing world. So, I have to say she's one of my favorite people!


A lot of people have the misconception that writing as a team is more work than writing on your own. It requires a different type of work, but if anything, it is easier than writing on your own.

We joked about the crackfic epilogues for Breakfast at Tiffany’s. After the teams had submitted their epilogues, and the laughter died down we asked them about the processing of writing together. While you would expect some of the comments (the importance of feedback via constructive criticism or reviews, the challenge of evolving a plot line), two sentiments rang through loud and clear. We couldn’t imagine doing it on our own and we’ve never laughed so hard in our lives.

We’d like to end with a request. There are a number of you out there that have collaborated; either for a one shot contest or creating a multi-chapter story of your own. We’d like to hear about your experiences. Send them to hmonster4@gmail.com. We want to hear your thoughts on finding a hetero lifemate.

Until next time, this is H & T, signing off.

Wednesday, June 24, 2009

Affiliates: Temptation Podcast



Episode twenty two of Temptation: A Twilight Fanfiction Podcast, has been released and can be found here

On this episode we had guest hosts, americnxidiot and michellephants and we discussed one-shots vs. multi-chapter fics, fanart, and introduced our new fanart contest.
Oh yeah, Shannon's in this one too.....

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Monday, June 22, 2009

Admin FicRec: Difficult Title, Awesome Story.






So recently, I was chatting up one of my fave authors, ThisColony, and she throws me a little linkage love to this AU fic, CN&FL. Since I've been on some weird, hardcore angsty AU binge, I don't really hesitate to open it up and start procrastinating reading.

Normally with AU's, 5 general questions come to mind.

    1. Age and Place it occurs?
    2. Who's the vamp?
    3. What makes it different?
    4. Are there sexy times?
    5. Is Edward going to change Bella, or be a little bitch about it?

The last two are usually mysteries up until the end of the stories, so I'll focus on 1-3.

Bella is older in this one, but it still takes place in Forks. She is a jaded, sardonic, bitchy bartender who has managed to find herself doing something she loathes, in a place she loathes, with people she loathes. Her dreams have slipped through her fingers, and she's a little bitter about her circumstances, but not in an off-putting way. Her characterization is easy to relate to, and also very easy to relate to canon Bella. She's not vulgar or slutty or traumatized, she's just bored and disappointed that life didn't turn out like she'd planned.

Edward and the Cullens are vamps, but this story begins with Edward flying solo... in RUSSIA. That's right. Other countries exist. I like it that -- even though he goes to Forks -- we're seeing him as kind of nomadic and in a different place than the US or Canada or UK. Is it just me, or do they rarely go anywhere else? Russia seems like a perfect option.

Edward is also lonely, as always, but darker in the sense that he's depressed, struggling to find his place, and wants a home where he thinks there is none. There's an air of mystery about both his eating habits and his past as he settles down in the town and tries to make a believable facade there. When he first meets Bella in the bar (and there is no love at first sight here) he is overcome by his bloodlust, first and foremost. Devastated and torn about the effect of the call of her blood and his very close call with nearly killing her, the rest of the Cullens will come into play.

I'm quite certain that my favorite part about this story is Edward's reaction to Bella's blood. Which will be my mention of number 3.

We know he likes it. We know he wants it. We're told this in every vampy fic, yes. Bella is nummylicious. But queenofgrey has managed to make Bella's blood like its very own entity to Edward and has taken it to a whole new level. He doesn't notice her face or her meekness or her blank mind. No. He notices her blood and it haunts him, taunts him, and tears him apart from the inside when it isn't there. This isn't about romance, plain and simple. It's the longing and appreciation for her scent.

In fact, he adore, reveres, and is so obsessed with the smell of her blood, that a part of the monster within him doesn't want to kill her, instead pondering a desire to worship the blood, have it to always smell and crave and adore. Queenofgrey shows this by gracing Edward with one of Bella's shirts -- a tool to meant to desensitize him. Simple. Common. Scented. Shirt. Well, needless to say,
he goes a little batshit and... GOOD GRIEF. The way he acts with this simple scrap of fabric is utterly fucked up in the most glorious of ways, and right away, I'm sold.

Dancing in my nose, tugging at my throat, her scent was there, held fast in Jasper’s hand, a bundle of fabric. Releasing myself, caving, I lunged as Jasper neared, tearing the cloth from his grip, losing all control as I ran it over my face, reveled in it, growling deeper as my teeth sunk into the spot on my arm, still sore from the day this all began... I tumbled, sprawled, all the while the fabric pressing into my mouth, my nose covetously inhaling, growls and rumbling ripping through me. Ecstasy and heaven had nothing on this, this girl, and I rolled around in it, covered myself in it, wanted to bathe in it, her scent and her blood... A while later, still palming the thin fabric of what I now saw as a forest green t-shirt to my mouth, I sat cross-legged in front of Carlisle on the floor, rocking my body back and forth, into the material and back again.


Just the imagery of him reacting into this shirt in this way is so fantastic, desperate and somehow... a paradox, in that it's reverently animalistic. He keeps this shirt, burying his nose into it, even around the others. It becomes a security blanket, a fix. It's almost tender in it's intensity, his dependence on this item and her smell, even though he doesn't even really know her yet.

Over the course of these ten chapters, we see Bella's interest in the unknown, her draw to things of mystery, her urge to escape the mundane and get answers from Edward. Their interactions are suspenseful, Edward being at times incapable of controlling his bloodlust for her. He reveals very much, very soon, and Bella knows from the get go that all is not ordinary with him.

But bored bartender Bella likes this, even despite her knowledge that he wants to kill her. Her behavior, though seemingly canon, really isn't. She probably reacts the way most anyone would in her position. There is a gun. Which is all I'm saying, because... I don't want to give it away. Just know that Bella isn't all whiny girly girl swooning over the dark vampire here. She's got some balls, alcohol, firearms, and she's a little pissed off.

There is eventual correspondence, and this story is just beginning to show us the building of a relationship between the two, the little moments in which they get to know one another, and how they overcome the obvious obstacle of his reactions to her scent.

All in all, queenofgrey has created a visually, emotionally, mentally stimulating story, weaving the minds of these two together through the beauty of her prose. If you're looking for a good vampy AU, deep, thoughtful, and exploratory of Edward's primal nature mingled with his loneliness, I urge you to give a read, add it to alerts, review the author, and let her know how you feel.

With an average of 0.7 chapters per day, queenofgrey is a quick updater, and we lazy ficsters dig that shit, don't we? ~collective nod~

Also, I'll be waiting to see if numbers 4 and 5 come to fruition. :)

Reader'sSeries: Twilightlvr1





My journey into the world of Twilight was brought to me in more ways than one by my 17 year old daughter. Last summer I was looking for a book to read on the airplane while traveling to see my friend in New York State. My daughter had read all of the Twilight books and having known my weakness for vampire stories, loaned me her paperback copy of Twilight. To make a long story short, I was captivated and within a week had all four books read.

I re-read all of the books several times over the next few weeks and found I was becoming totally obsessed. I found the Twilight Moms posting board and did make several posts there, but honestly the site is so big I found it to be a bit overwhelming. But at least I knew I wasn’t alone in my obsession. I loved that the site opened with a little blurb about ignoring the housework and daily chores to read Twilight, because that is exactly what I had done.

My personal foray into fan fiction didn’t start until after the whole Midnight Sun fiasco.

Again, thanks to my daughter, I read the unfinished script, honestly not even sure what I was reading at first. I suppose you can call me naive, but at first I honestly thought this could be someone else’s take on Twilight from Edwards POV and couldn’t believe Stephenie Meyer’s unfinished work was on line. I stayed up very late and read the whole thing in one night. I found it to be wonderful and fell in love with Edward all over again. Well of course, the next day things unraveled and we all found out that this was leaked and Stephenie decided not to finish it. To say I was devastated is an understatement. I thirsted for more of Edwards thoughts and didn’t know where to turn.

Once again, my daughter came to the rescue. She is an avid reader on FFn and suggested I go on there to look for stories from Edward’s POV. Now, here’s where I am strange. I drug my feet for two weeks to think about it. While I had read Buffy and Angel fan fiction in the past, that was not from a book, those were from TV shows and felt different to me somehow. I was afraid that reading fan fiction authors stories wouldn’t begin to compare to Stephenie Meyer’s written word. I couldn’t have been more wrong.

At first I looked through the FFn web site and found several stories but they weren’t exactly what I was looking for. But I was not ready to give up. So I googled Twilight fan fiction and came across the Twilighted web site. This is where my fan fiction world really began. It promised to have high quality stories, and the site didn’t lie. My very first story that I read was Die to Self by JenWordSong. What a first story to begin with! It had 27 chapters and told the story of Bella and Edward’s wedding, honeymoon and first touch into Bella becoming a vampire so well, that many times I found myself in tears. And parts were in Edward’s POV! I was in heaven. As we all know, once you get started, there’s no turning back. Again, I wanted more.

It wasn’t long after that that I came across There Are Worse Things I Could Do by EZRocksAngel. I had a soft spot for this one as I have always loved the movie Grease (having seen it in the theatres when I was a young teen) and was fascinated with how the author was able to adapt this into a Bella/Edward story. And as the story progressed I noticed that her writing got better and better with each chapter and I was totally in love with her writing and her story. So I started leaving gushing reviews and she started responding back to me saying I was one of her favorite reviewers. That meant a great deal to me. I tend to be somewhat shy by nature and find the forums to be somewhat intimidating. So in e-mailing back in forth, Angel was really the first author that I had the chance to talk to about Twilight and I couldn’t have been more thrilled. She is currently writing Creature of Habit and I can’t say enough about her brilliance on that piece. She has managed to combine the world of Twilight with bringing in a bit of Angel The Series on the side. It’s fabulous.

I really can’t pinpoint my favorite type of stories. I actually like a wide variety. I am a huge fan of Bella and Edward and hate to see them with anyone else other than each other. Now having said that, however I have found 2 stories with Bella/Edward/Jasper that I adore. The first being The Trip Home by MsKathy. And the second is Just The Three of Us by Kuntrygal. What makes these stories work is the emotion the writers put behind their words. In both of these stories, the writers have Bella, Edward and Jasper being in love equally. It’s not gratuitous sex, it’s love and devotion and I find that very endearing. And again, both writers couldn’t be sweeter. I am happy that they seem touched by my reviews.

It’s funny how I first shied away from the human stories, but find that they actually seem to be my favorite type now. Vampire Edward is so brooding and there are so many obstacles, that sometimes I prefer to read something a bit more versatile.

A new recent favorite of mine is To Feel by Rockbandstar. This story has Bella and Edward being in loveless marriages to other people and they fall in love and begin an affair. It’s beautifully written and the author has really touched on some real emotions and tapped into the deep love that her Bella and Edward share. It’s not an easy road for them and has been a long journey for both of them to be together. Having been through a failed marriage myself, this story touches me in a very personal way and I am grateful to the author for writing it.

Also another story that I feel needs more attention is Blood Lines by Windchime. Her chapters are incredibly long and she puts so much into each chapter that I am often times astounded by her words. This is actually a Vampire Edward story where he finds that he actually fathered a child while he was human. Family of the now elderly son is looking to Edward to see if he has any information on the father. The time line takes place after Eclipse right before Edward and Bella’s wedding. The explanation as to how this child was fathered is fascinating as is the support that Bella has for Edward throughout this time. It is a long story, that still is not complete, but has a lot of twists and turns and even a baby. For anyone that was disappointed in the whole baby story in Breaking Dawn and the way it was handled, this story shows a very different and gentler way to handle it. The love and support that Bella and Edward have for each other jump off the page in this story and it’s really very lovingly written.

The only things that drive me crazy in this world of fan fiction are; Edward cheating and or dissing Bella. And when stories, that I have loved and have patiently waited for updates on, get abandoned. I’m sure it’s very time consuming and very difficult, to be so creative. But it makes me very sad when stories go so far and are never finished.

What I especially love is when writers message me back and tell me what my reviews mean to them and then they say – “Hey, have you checked out any of my other work?” I love that.

There are of course many, many other authors that and stories that I would love to pay tribute to, but there just isn’t enough space to mention them all.

All in all I really want to say that my love for Twilight knows no end. My love for fan fiction knows no end. I am totally obsessed. I like to see Happily Ever Afters because in the real world they seem to rarely happen. I live vicariously through the romance of these characters in the stories and can’t believe the amount of talent the writers have. It blows me away at times.

So I thank you to all the writers, only a few who I have mentioned here, who have kept me happily entertained for many hours. (now I won’t talk about the lack of sleep and how I have to consume huge amounts of caffeine to get through my work day!) Your words are a joy to me and I am truly amazed at all of the talent that is out there. Please don’t ever stop writing, cause I’ll always be reading!




Author's Blurb by Angel/EZRocks

My first story was a little flangst piece called, There Are Worse Things I Could Do. Yes, it is a take off of Grease. Yes, Edward is Danny Zuko. Yes, I love it like my first born, the one you make mistakes on and try to correct them with you second and subsequent children. I was very unsure about my writing with Grease. My reviews were average. Nothing exciting but each chapter I would receive the nicest, most supportive reviews from one reader.

Twilightlvr1.

She would review, I would respond and eventually we found ourselves emailing frequently about many things, primarily our love for David Boreanaz, Robward and all other things Twilight and fanfic related. We talk about work and raising girls. We discuss stories we are reading and our frustrations with certian aspects of the fandom. When I was nervous or worried, I would reach out to her and ask for her honest feedback on my story, which she gave freely. When I posted Creature of Habit she was one of the first reviews I saw from my posting, and the same for each of story I have posted since.

I feel lucky to have met such a thoughtful, intelligent, supportive woman by my side in the land of fanfic. Being a participant in this fandom has brought many things into my life and awesome readers like her are just one of the benefits!




Sunday, June 21, 2009

GuestFicRec: Wagering Music Lessons are on the Horizon




Hopeful Wager's


Piano players are sexy. I'm sorry, they just are. It doesn't matter what one looks like really, but once you see what a true virtuoso can do with just the working of his hands up and down those lovely 88 keys, you get spellbound.



Now, add to that the fact that the virtuoso in question is a physical prodigy as well, with his bronzed locks, amber, smouldering eyes, a chiseled chest, and well… that other thing you’d like to tickle as well, and I don’t mean his ivories. Put this in a canon-compliant fic that comes with a soundtrack that would make the London Philharmonic proud, and an elegance of prose paired with an understanding of melodic verse that sometimes approaches poetry, and you have Locqua’s Music Lessons.”



First, a disclosure. I am a music snob. You know how some people say they listen to all kinds of music and what they really mean is that they listen to a little Linkin Park and a little Britney Spears? Yeah, that’s not me. Listening to my iPod would qualify you to earn an honorary PhD in Musical Anthropology. Also, as an ex-opera singer, I know the classics better than most. I discovered Locqua’s masterpiece (pun fully intended) last winter on a random search of FF.net. Serendipity must have been in town that night, because she stopped in just long enough to wink this piece at me.



What sets this story apart from others using the Edward the Pianist (and, yes, I pronounce that word PEE-AN-IST) and Bella the innocent acolyte scenario is the inherent love, appreciation and knowledge that Locqua brings as an author. Each of the 27 chapters (there is also an alternate non-canon ending) uses a different selection from amongst the finest pieces ever written. Consequently, if one wisely reads ML with the appropriate music playing in the background, the musical selection acts as a character in and of itself. It’s extremely fascinating to see Edward and Bella explore their ever-teetering-on-the-edge intimacy with the likes of Sibelius or Offenbach as muses and even conspirators. Locqua excels at melding together her talent for writing with her years of musical performance drawn from her own experience with many of these pieces as either a pianist or cellist.



Another thing I appreciate about Locqua: just as she chooses not to water down her conception by selecting more mainstreamed composers [Mozart is not featured once, despite the fact that I begged her to use “Lacrimosa” fruitlessly whilst she was writing- hey, Locqua! Maybe an outtake?], she also does not shy away from flexing her He-Man like vocabulary muscles. I’m a word witch who’s been known to toss in terms like ‘paludamentum’ on occasion. I appreciate an author who clearly does not try to appeal to the teenie bopper crowd by implementing childish speech. Edward has read how many fricking books over the decades? Do you think his discussion of the musical meter, tone, and style of Ravel’s “Bolero” is going to read along the lines of, “I like it. It’s got a beat I can dance to. I give it a 9?”



Oh, you probably want me to tell you something about the plot… How very discerning you are. Well, this is a tandem piece with very little plodding conflict outside well developed lusty angst and our betrothed couple’s growing need to find release. The binary stars in question here are B/E’s need to develop a physical relationship while correspondingly developing Bella’s music appreciation. And while it almost demeans a work of this eloquence and decorum, it’s so extremely hot so as to leave one panting in later chapters. Combine this with the earlier mentioned elements, and you get splendorous passages such as this one:



As Bella’s hands began to slide gently down the top of my foot, I became aware of how well the music complimented her touch. The cascading arpeggios of Schubert’s Impromptu sang throughout the room, my mind mentally playing along with the piece. As Bella worked her thumb against my arch, I began to hum – not just with the music, but in reaction to her sensuous touch and the waves of pleasure it sent up my legs and through my torso. The lingering tendrils of stress seemed to dissipate with each caress of her hand. I had thought the sensation of her foot against mine had been magnificent, but I was sorely mistaken in thinking that it couldn’t be outdone. Her fragile fingertips seemed to know exactly what areas to stroke, and which to knead. For a second I feared that she would find my hardened skin too difficult to effectively massage, but every one of her actions felt perfectly delightful.



After working thoroughly on every surface of my foot, she traced her fingertips upward to my ankle, still rubbing my cold skin delicately. I opened one eye and peered down at her curiously when I felt her start to slide the hem of my chinos up near my calf.




And it’s that sort of intimacy that makes Locqua’s more citrusy passages so high brow and dignified. This is not a smut fic. It’s clear that each physical action our fated couple engages in is an act of love and not just lust. However, the story stays true to canon insofar as Bella and Edward’s dedication to staying technically pure until after their nuptials. However, with each additional movement (pun, again, fully intended), it gets harder and harder for the other to resist. Much like the coursing runs of Smetana’s “The Moldau”, a musical analogy of the flowing of the river of the same name from his masterpiece work “Ma Vlast”, the lovers get swept away by their passion.



Here’s my suggestion: Put the kids to bed, or the hubbie, or the dog, or the voices in your head. Pour yourself a glass of merlot, find a comfortable spot, and pull up a recording of each chapter’s piece as you read through. You’ll find your own heart moved in time to the works of some of classical music’s masters and the masterful writing of Locqua’s Music Lessons.”
Hopeful Wager is the author of the post-BD epic “Will You Be Ready When it Comes?” and the AU/AH period piece, “Twice as Long as Yesterday.” She is also a member of Team iFic at Twilighted.net and a contributing member to The Secret Twilight Garden blog.

Friday, June 19, 2009

Ask Dirty Uncle Jandco





Our Dirty Uncle is on vacation so once again the ONLY person who could possibly fill her shoes has tied 'em up and went to work. So, ladies and well, Jasper, I give you Jandco...

Dearest WTVOC,

I'm a' ponderin' do you shy away from certain ships or is it whoever screws whoever?! 'cause I was totally, "EEEEWW! Alice/Edward=PURE HELL!" before Angst Brigade! But I read that and was like... It doesn't freak me out as much in this one... But now I hail that story as a religion of sorts! So I don't mind ALice/Edward when I (re)read that particular story but with others Im like, "Ahh!"

Sincerely, wanderer

Darling Nomad,

Thanks for enduring the uncomfortable read that is Angst Brigade. So. Out of canon shipping. This is an absolutely fabulous question, mostly because I have a lot to say about this.

Do I like it?

That hugely depends. Normally, no. It’s uncomfortable and just seems wrong, mostly because it’s ingrained in us that Bella and Edward belong together. That Alice’s box secretes venom only for Jasper. You get the idea. Besides, the original Twilight characters all had a sibling type relationship—it’s almost incest like to think of Emmett on Alice or Jasper on Rosalie or Edward on Emmett.

But then something happened.

Everything else had been done. The fanfiction world pretty much got bored with putting Bella and Edward in all kinds of lusty positions…and we needed fresh meat, different personality clashes and I’ll be honest, it’s fun to play around with those characters. It was refreshing and shocking and fun, if a tad uncomfortable.

The key to enjoying out of canon shipping is to find a good author. An author so good that she’s built her own characters, and just slapped on the names we all know and love. It’s also important to try your damnest to go into reading an out of canon pairing with an open mind. Make a conscious decision to read the story as you would any other not-fanfiction-book. Hell, if it helps, make up your own names.

I’m so passionate about this topic because it just recently occurred to me that I was missing out on hella good fics because I was avoiding the crazy shipping.

Then I read The Elite by Fate of Gabriel. Gah. Start with that one, it’s the best I’ve read and the author did such a wonderful job building her own world and characters, you forget all about canon.

Hope that long winded rant helped…

Jandco




Dearest most brilliant light in the fanfiction firmament –

Since your advice enable…uh…allowed me to enjoy my predilection for Bella/Edward stories without guilt or the inconvenience of eye gouging, I thought you might be able to help me analyze and perhaps solve some confounding conundrums currently cramming my cranium.

(1) Mr. Robert Pattinson recently announced that Summit would be bringing the fourth installment of the “Twilight” saga, “Breaking Dawn”, to the big screen and that he would be starring in the production. Given the particular “difficulties” in filming this to me, would you:

(a) film a 15 minute wedding scene along with an hour and 45 minute graphic honeymoon;

(b) film two hours of Mr. Pattinson looking into the camera and talking dirty to the audience;

(c) film two hours of the "Twilight" hot male candy (Mr. Pattinson, Mr. Lutz, Mr. Rathbone, Mr. Facinelli, et al) looking into the camera and talking dirty to the audience;

(d) film a fanfiction alternative to “Breaking Dawn”;

(e) film a combination of the above;

(f) film your own brilliant, yet highly controversial version of the novel; or

(g) abandon the project as totally unfilmable.

(2) Would Edward have saved himself a great deal of honeymoon performance anxiety if he had followed this maxim?

“Try not, do. Or do not. There is no try.”

(3) Would it be possible for me to blame Renee for Bella’s execrable lapse in judgment at the end of “New Moon”? That crap she spouts to Edward sure as hell sounds all “Love means never having to say you’re sorry” to me. You just know Renee could have picked it up at the commune or the ashram and she could have passed it on to poor, unsuspecting Bella. As much as I worship Edward, *I* would have let him know just how miserable he had made me and how much he was going to have to make it up to me. I would have guilted him to, at the very least, take me on a tour of European vamp hotspots. What are your thoughts?

Con mucho cariño para mi tio Weetboc,

lvk1978

Dear Many Spanish (I think) Words I Don’t Know,

So sorry you don’t get the Brilliant Light in Fanfiction Firmament—but you do get me. Which isn’t saying much, but I’m much more willing to bash Breaking Dawn than my fairer half.

Right off the bat, option G is off the table. Not because Breaking Dawn is something that I need to see on the big screen, but because Robert Pattinson and Co. is. I don’t care what he’s doing on that screen, as long as he’s there…but you’ve given me wonderful options, so I’ll choose.

And I’m choosing E.

I would like to see a five minute wedding scene, because I don’t need to see K. Stew stammer and NOT finish a sentence for a full fifteen minutes. Then I’d like the explicit honeymoon scene. I want to know, in great detail, how each of those bruises got there. I want to see pale, long fingered hands ripping pillows and breaking head boards. I want to hear gasping and growling and I want to see pale vampire ass pushing and struggling for self control. Yeah. And then I want option b to kick in, because after the honeymoon scene, we don’t need to see any of the other events that occurred in BD. I want Pattinson to find himself a bar stool, hop on, look into the camera and discuss his preferred sexual positions. And, because we’re playing in my fantasyland here, I’d like him to drop the F bomb, because crass turns me on.

Then Lutz, Rathbone and Facinelli can come in and do more of the same…and then I’d feel satisfied that I got my twelve bucks worth. But still. I’ll go see Breaking Dawn in all of its shapeshifting, absent Edward, womb munching, sexless, mutant baby glory. Probably more than once.

Okay, onward to Renee. This lady is following her new, young baseball playing husband around the nation, which screams pathetic. But we also know she had the balls to pack up her infant and leave Charlie. The woman is a flaky, walking contradiction. So, I’m going to go with no, Renee didn’t influence Bella. Renee was so involved in herself she didn’t have too much time to give Bella hair brained advice. Now, some people may think this is antifeminist or whatever—but, so what if Bella didn’t give Edward the business at the end of New Moon? She knew she wanted to be with him. She knew she would never NOT want to be with him…so for once, thank you Bella for sparing us the drama. Why make a big stink of it if it wasn’t going to change the outcome of their relationship? I’m okay with her quick acceptance, besides, if Edward Cullen and his sweet breath and cold chest were on my bed, I’d pretty much forgive anything, too.




Dear Uncle Nuts...nutty....( forgive me, I stammer a lot)

I was wondering if the word revamped may have some ancient relationship with vamps. Like re...vamps?

Also, I would like to know what the real werewolf looks like if Jake (poor boy) is just a shapeshifter.

Been wondering also, ... if vamp skin is like granite, filled with blood it would certainly be a hard rod... but, how can that not hurt without a condom? So much for thorough Edward!

Revamped


Dear Re Vee,

That. Is a brilliant deduction. Revamp. Like, when a human is re-born as a vampire. Fixed up. Organized. Better. So, I searched for the origin of revamp, and only came up with a year—1850ish. So, ancient it’s not, but because I could find no further info on the origin, Imma go ahead and say you’re right. Keep in mind I don’t have near the authority or credibility of Merriam-Webster.

Shapeshifters. Sigh. Cop out. Anyhoo, in Eclipse Edward says something to Victoria about “Look close, is he really so much like the wolves in Siberia?” to which Victoria hisses “Not the same? Impossible!”—the point here being if Victoria’s sharpshooter vampire vision couldn’t detect a difference, our human eyes wouldn’t be able to at all. Don’t waste your time thinking about the differences there, your weak human vision could never detect any, anyway. Now, as for what they all must look like? Scotty Howard, of course. If you don’t know who Scott Howard is, shame on you and Google that shite ASAP. If, like me, you’re too lazy to do that, I’ll fill you in now. Scotty Howard is the best and original teen werewolf played by Michael J. Fox in the classic Teen Wolf. Jason Bateman comes in second, as he starred in Teen Wolf 2. Lautner is third.
Okay, so the skin on a vampire is described as granite hard (hot) but also as smooth as marble. Are you kidding me? That thing would glide in with the ease of a hot knife in butter. The cold may be a bit uncomfortable and numbing, but I wouldn’t anticipate a 103 year old virgin lasting too long anyway. But the thrusting…now that’s what will getchya in pelvic shattering trouble.




Dear wtvoc,


I have a problem. It seems that my obsession with fanfiction has reached a point where I can do nothing but. I can't do homework and I can't study, because the moment I turn my computer on, I check my emails, which leads to a whole load of things. Which is really bad because I have tonnes of tests coming up that I really need to study for -- and I can't.

I mean, in English it's alright. I can just pretend Romeo and Julliet are Edward and Bella and all's good, I pass my work with flying colours. But everything else... I mean, it's not like I can pretend Edward is an oxygen of atom and Bella is the two hydrogen atoms that join to him-- oooh. That'd be kinda funny.


Anyway, my question is: Do you have any study techniques that could somehow relate science and maths and history and geography and everything else school-y to Twilight or fanfiction? Any ideas at all to help me study, or maybe actually enjoy doing schoolwork? Any? I'm getting desperate! I don't want to fail just because fanfiction rules me life and I have no self control....

Please help me!

Sincerely,

~Fucked


Dear Effed,

I am the way wrong person to be asking this. WTVOC could’ve actually helped you a lot, as she is a fanfic addict who has a massive school load as well. I, however, am a self indulgent creep, so I hadn’t really ever put much thought into trying to do more responsible things…

Now. I’d go with simple task and reward here. You get three chapters of History text read, then reward yourself with three chapters of fanfiction. Right? I dunno. That could be completely counterproductive. I got nothing.




Dear dirty uncle,

Am I going to go to hell for my impure thoughts about Priestward?

Do I need to go to AA for my addiction to Scotch and Gin?

Did you know that if you mix equal parts of gasoline and frozen orange juice concentrate you can make napalm?

Did you know that with enough soap you could blow up the world?

I'm taking Fight Club out of the DVD player now.

Much love,

Imjacksbrokenheart

Dear Imjacksbrokenheart,

HI! I remember you! Excuse me for that, I just got way too excited to see a familiar name. Down to business. If you are going to hell for impure thoughts about Priestward, lemme pack up my firepoker and hail a cab—I’m coming with you! Seriously, one of the many, many things I love about Sanctuary is the absolute innocence. It’s a true love story, not built on lust or sex. It’s about struggle and indecision and falling in love with another’s soul, not tits. Rest easy, that story is about as pure as they come.

Psssh. People addicted to Scotch and Gin don’t go to AA. They go to Promises with Lindsay Lohan and Eva Mendes.

I did NOT know about O.J. and gas…and I don’t know how comfortable I am with us sharing that information with a fandom known for extreme behavior.

I would rather die from Irish Spring than a nuclear bomb. I hope more people know the soap fact.

There is never a good reason to take Fight Club out of the DVD player. Put it back.




Dear Dirty Uncle,

I have been trying to figure out what I could ask that I would need your specific expertise and I have finally come up with the perfect question.

In the recently released very sexy pictures of our dear Rob he is ab'ed out. I am questioning whether these abs are for real or if they are sprayed on a la the hotels.com commercial where the guy gets spray tanned abs.

Then I must also question why Edward, a non changing vampire, all of a sudden has abs in New Moon whereas in Twilight they were vitually non existent. Please help, I really must have the answer to this question, I believe Rob's abs are of utmost importance to your reading audience.

Thank you.

-shelly

Shelly,

Little bit of column A, little bit of column B. I know you saw the pre shooting New Moon pics of Pattinson lugging around that gym bag all sweaty and put out. He’s been working out. However, he hasn’t been working out that hard. I’d say the abs are there, but are majorly defined with the help of airbrushing.

I suspect he has ripped abs in New Moon because he was shamed into the gym. I mean, lots of people straight up laughed at that tum tum during what was supposed to be a pivotal scene in Twilight. He ain’t making that mistake twice, and I don’t think the powers that be would let him if he wanted to. Mucho dinero on the line this time around.

And, let’s be honest, we’ll all forgive this oversight. I mean, I can give up the need for continuity and rigid vampire rules of existence if I can see those abs.





Special thanks to the lovely and talented Jandco for filling in for her girl, wtvoc. Every time she writes for the blog it is filled with insight and a hearty dose of lusty humor. We all look forward to her contributions and hope that WTVOC is having a fantastic time deep frying assorted foods. Don't burn your tongue, wtvoc, we need it too much!


Thursday, June 18, 2009

Admin Essay: Every Kiss Begins With 'Kay, No More Tongue Dominance.'



Every Kiss Begins With 'Kay, No More Tongue Dominance.'


It's no big secret that FF has a shit-load of kisses. You'd be hard pressed to find a fic that completes without at least one. Being the fandom/community that we certainly are, it's not difficult to notice trends in kisses. I came upon this topic initially because I felt as if some of the trends were creating misconceptions. One of my reviewers once said something along the lines of... "They made out all night?! Don't they need to breathe?"

Sigh sigh sigh. This had festered in my brain for some time, and I'm choosing now to question people on kisses. I'm no kisspert. Sure, my fiance says I do okay, but I'm not a wordly woman or anything. He's been the only man I've kissed since I was just a wee teenager. So, I read these kisses and wonder if I'm doing it wrong, but... I've watched movies and my fair share of gay porn, and I just don't think it's me.

I mean, come on. These fics are like a sex guide for tweens everywhere. Hot damn, are they going to be disappointed...

This was my initial intention, but as time went on, I began receiving some very opinionated comments on kisses. Not all negative, mind you. A good fic kiss can brighten anyone's day. Imagine waiting x-amount of chapters and getting that alert, reading, and thinking, "Oh my fuck. It's about damned time." Naturally, I expanded this article to fic kissery with enthusiasm. I probably ended up approaching more people than ever, simply because it's such a fun topic and I have no self-control. So, let's get started...


Types of kisses


  • The Butterfly Kiss:
    These don't use lips at all. I wonder, while reading, if people aren't confusing the meaning of the "Butterfly Kiss" all together. The context seems funky to me given the definition. These kisses aren't kisses at all. This is where one person flutters their eyelashes over another's skin or eyelashes. Urban Dictionary, ehow, teenadivce, and basically anything Googled will confirm this. Feather, flutter, tickle... all appropriate descriptions of Butterfly Kisses, I think.
  • The Chaste Kiss:
    These commonly come first in fics. We all know it, have read it, have waited for the tongue to make an appearance, and have been left dissatisfied and wanting. Still, though, the chaste kiss has its place. Where else to begin the long road of romantic intimacy? These usually involve some cheek caresses, hair stroking, or for the more passionate ones, crushing of faces.
  • The Lip-lock:
    One-up on the chaste kiss. Someone takes a top lip, while the other takes the bottom and they suck. Gently, of course. These usually lead to...
  • The Tongue Introduction:
    This is where things get iffy. Begging for entrance... seems to have a lot of non-fans. Lips get traced, there's prodding and gasping and darting and sweeping and FUCK. Just open your fucking mouth, mkay? You know you want it, Edward just beat you to the punch. Christ.
  • The Tasteful French:
    Well, this is subjective, but I find that people enjoy subtle mentions of arousal and less physical description. More emotional. I really want to give examples here, but fear that it's just personal preference, and I don't play that shit. I'm a weird bitch who likes weird shit. You don't care. Comment with some tasteful kiss suggestions.
  • The Porn Kiss:
    These are criticized most, it would seem. I'm a big fan of some tongue shoving, I admit. It seems really passionate and feverish, but that's me. There's a lot of exploring, moaning, groaning, arousal, and general slobber that never really gets mentioned. It would seem as though both parties never draw back, instead deciding to just go at it. Think: Humping with a tongue...
  • The Vamp Kiss:
    Vamp/Human kisses are a curious case. This is where things get most heated amongst readers and authors alike. Everyone seems to have their own version of what is and isn't acceptable. Long live the joys of variety. We'll explore this soon...


Fun Fact: Two out of every three couples turn their heads to the right when they kiss.

Popular Annoyances

"Battling for Dominance" ????-2009. Rest in Peace...
I wanted to know what killed everyone's fic-rection most, so I asked. My kiss survey consisted of my contact list, the Twilighted forums, Twitter, and The Twilight Sisterhood. Appx. 50 people participated. This is what some had to say.

(I'm not putting names on these. This article isn't meant to be critical of kissing, but rather to explore the trends. I've been guilty of almost every one.)

  • Perfection Wrapped in Bows:
    -"That kisses just magically make everything right with the world. Rainbows and flowers just spring up out of the ground."
    -"When a character "poured all my love into that kiss." Poured. ORLY. When I'm in the midst of a really hot kiss, I'm not pouring anything. I'm kissing and attempting to keep my legs from buckling under me. It's so overused."
  • Boring Kisses:
    -"They're boring or they cut straight to sex."
    -"I'm not sure I can come up with anything really memorable. Most kisses seem boring and monotonous. You've read one, you've probably read a million."
    -"Failure to put me in the moment. Telling me they kiss instead of showing me."
  • Physical Kisses:
    -"Call me old school, I don't need every detail - leave something to the imagination, KWIM? I may be the oddball, but I don't just want the physiology, I want emotions, thoughts, reactions. It kind of ties to Hope's smut article - don't be clinical - make me feel."
    -"And maybe it's just me, but going after someone's teeth with my tongue isn't the most awesome way to kiss..."
  • Granting of Entrances:
    -"Just like what’s going to happen to the licking of the lower lip. Hot and, if I’m not mistaken, canon, but come on…"
    -"The whole 'licking of the bottom lip = open sesame' thing. I missed that in Emily Post."
    -"I agree with everyone who has said that these are overused:... licking lips for "gaining entrance".
    -"Licking the bottom lip or sucking the bottom lip between the other persons. I don't kiss like that. Maybe i'm visualizing something else than what the writer is talking about."
    -"Granting/begging for entrance with the tongue! GAH that annoys the crap out of me (no offense to anyone who's written it in their fics)"
  • Asphyxiation by Tongue:
    -"Ummm, [they have to come up for air] because they have a cold? Honestly, I can't help but wonder if some writers don't do it b/c SM did it."
    -"WE’ve all been probably guilty of this. I can understand catching your breath because it can be a bit hard breathing in someone else’s air, but has anyone heard of breathing through your nose?"
    -"I don't know if I'm just doing it weird, but there's definitely not a vacuum-like situation going on when I kiss someone. You can either breathe through your nose or even just separate for a second to breathe without breaking the kiss all together."
    -"Something that annoys me... forgetting to breathe."
    -YES. Good God, people. Bella and Edward have noses. Kissing a vampire Edward may result in dizzying breathlessness, but lets tone down the dramatics for the AHs."
    -"I agree with everyone who has said that these are overused: ... anything about forgetting to breathe or not being able to breathe (that's what noses are for, people!)"
  • Battling for Dominance:

    I don't think I got one survey back that didn't express an intense dislike for this term. I couldn't even post all the comments if I tried. It's like... the Brittany Spears of FF kissing. It was somehow popular at one point, but now, we see it and think, "Oh, fuck. Here comes the skanky, ghetto, panty-less crotch..." and close the window. We can smell the tasteless from chapters away. Who started this? And can we blame them? I implore you to google (with quotations) "tongues battle for dominance." The first entries to appear are some kind of Anime FF. But I suppose it doesn't matter where it began, so much as that it did, and caught on like a smutty wildfire. NO MORE TONGUE DOMINATING! Seriously, we can safely put any "Battling for Dominance" to rest. A moment of silence?


Fun Fact: A typical French kiss moves 29 muscles in the face.

The Venom Slobber Debate

Would Vampward tongue kiss Human Bella? Oh, holy hale. Talk about varying opinions! I find there are 4 facets of this kissing debate.

  • A Vampire Could, But Edward Wouldn't.

    Gallantcorkscrews: No way on God's fucking bluegreen earth would Edward ever fucking kiss Bella with tongue. Edward is a stick in the mud born from way-back-yonder horse-and-buggy years.

    Think about AIDS scare type hysteria- like Seoul 1988 Olympic games when Greg Louganis hit in his diving into the water and bled in this HUGE POOL. He had HIV and it caused a big scandal because despite the chlorine and the MEGA DILUTION SINCE IT WAS IN AN OLMPIC SIZED POOL people were like WHOA EVERYONE WILL DIE AHHH. This is the kind of old world attitude we are looking at when it comes to contagion and this was just twenty years ago. Edward is sooo old school (born at the tail end of the Gilded fucking AGE PEOPLE! Before penicillin was invented!) and we all know vampires's characters are, on the whole, frozen when they are bitten. Just because he's been through an evolving world doesn't mean he's evolved with it. He's clung to sooo many old fashioned attitudes, from opening doors for ladies to wearing funky pea coats. He wouldn't risk dropping a milliounce (?) of venom in Bella's mouth, who's an anxious enough little worry wort- god knows she's probably bitten her tongue or something and has a flesh wound in there.

    DefinatleyStaying: Could he do it? Yes – I believe the venom has to enter the bloodstream to actually harm her, which generally means – blood. Would he do it? No, because when it comes to Bella, Edward is afraid of his own shadow.
  • Maybe, a bit.

    americnxidiot: I think the only way that this could work is if Edward only puts his tongue in Bella's mouth, but I can't see him willing to open his mouth wide enough to slip her the tongue while also protecting her from his razor sharp teeth. So even if he could I don't think he would.
  • Definitely.

    Blondie: Assuming you're asking if it would be possible within canon for a vampire to French kiss a human, I'd have to lean toward yes. Edward specifically kissing Bella...well that's a little different, but let's look at things one step at a time.

    On a purely logistic level, the venom has to come in contact with a human's blood. Since there didn't seem to be a problem with Bella eating venom (the pizza eating scene in twilight/MS), then it's safe to assume that a human's digestive system somehow filters out the venom. So a vampire's tongue in a human's mouth shouldn't kill the human. I would assume that if the human had an open cut on his/her lips, or (ew) an open sore inside his/her mouth, well, that'd be the last human kiss they'd have.

    In the case of Edward (SM's Edward) - could he do it? I think so, if he worked up to it. He almost did it in Eclipse (he licked her lips in chapter 8, Temper).

    Would he do it? I think a more interesting question is: Did he do it? If he could make love to Bella in the book everyone hates, I think he must have. If he couldn't handle his tongue in her mouth, how could he have put anything else into her? But that leads into the whole virginity/blood/venomous spunk debate, and well, I'm not going there. In short, I think that at that point he would have done it, and probably did.

    Honster: Ok - this one has always driven me batty (pun intended). How bored would a teenager (or horny adult for that matter) get with closed mouth kissing. Yeah, I get the sharp teeth, but come on!! As for the venom - you could go semantics of open sore or cut - but somehow I don't think there would be near enough venom to penetrate. Plus you could argue the scent of blood on an open wound would be too tempting regardless of open or closed mouth. It always slayed me in the books - girlfriend went more than A YEAR without getting any tongue (or much more for that matter). No way - don't believe it.
  • Depends on the Story/Author.

    I think it just depends. I think, as FF authors, it's our responsibility to sell the readers on it. If we truly want some spit-swatting, it's achievable. We just have to set our rules and remain consistent to whatever we path we choose to follow. I don't think any side is right or wrong. I think it's simply prefereance and the ability to make it fit into the story that's being written. Plenty of AUs have french kissing with Vampward and make it work.


  • Fun Fact: A kiss can contain up to 278 of different bacteria, 95% of which are non-dangerous.

    AG Asks: What would venom taste like?


    • Orajel.
    • I think it would taste like.. alcohol. Beer maybe? (i dont like beer, btw) Idk why, it is how I imagine. I guess because they say it stuns the person.. so deadens the nerves.. like booze. *shrug* i can imagine a nasty aftertaste though...
    • It tastes or at the very least smells good in canon. And um no I don't think Bella can gulp that shit down. For vamps though, yeah, drink that shit in.
    • On the fact- Edward's mouth probably taste like snogging a slobbering King Cobra.
    • It just freaks me out to think that it would taste like anything sweet. Let’s pretend it’s just like any other saliva. Ewwww.
    • I imagine venom would taste sweet but would make your mouth feel like you've been given Novocain.
    • I have no idea, but put me down in the venom would taste sweet side. I'll leave this question to the AU experts.
    • I think it would taste sour, like a sour appley flavor.
    • I imagine either extremely sweet or like poison one of the two, but strongly flavored either way.
    • And my personal fave response, from the fabulous and ever-witty Blondie: I think it'd have to taste pretty damn yummy. It obviously smells awesome - but so does vanilla extract (have you ever tasted that stuff? ICK). But Bella's had her lips on his so many times that she has to have gotten more than a sample, whether she got any tongue action or not. Didn't she say she loved how he tasted? Since the only thing he can excrete is venom, then it's mmm, mmm, good. It must be sweet - in a pick-your-favorite-candy kind of way. I love caramel, so I'd pick that...someone else might pick cotton candy (oh, I like that too, especially the way it melts on my tongue). It's kind of like trying to describe ambrosia...what does nectar of the gods really taste like?

      Definitely not garlic, though...


    The Epic Survey: FF's Best Kisses

    Oh this was some fun shit. Amidst all of the bad cliches and verbiage, there are DEFINITELY a whole plethora of kisses out there that deserve lengthy praise. I sent a list of 13 categories to... basically, anyone I could. I received more than 50 responses, slaved over the FFn search page, begged people to explain acronyms, and tallied them up. Basically, I wanted to know what people remembered about kisses, what stood out, and some good examples to follow for various circumstances. I'm not linking the chapters of the kisses because that's fail. They all need to be read in complete context to get the full effect of their awesomeness.

    Survey Results!

    (I chose the top 3 nominated for each category, usually anywhere from 10-20 nominations.)

    Best First Kiss



    Best Vamp/Human Kiss



    Best E/B Reunion Kiss (AU)



    Best E/B Reunion Kiss (AH)



    Most Awkward Kiss



    Most Passionate Kiss



    Angriest Kiss

    (Landslide Victory with 20 Nominations.)
    1.
    The Office
    by
    tby789


    Most Deceitful Kiss


    1.
    The Teenage Angst Brigade
    by
    Jandco
    (Edward/Bella)
    2.
    Scotch Gin & the New Girl
    by
    Jandco
    &
    withthevampsofcourse
    (Bella/Jasper)
    3.
    Wreckage
    by
    lambcullen
    (Bella/Jacob)


    Best Chaste Kiss



    Best Non-Canon M/F Kiss


    1.
    The Arrangement
    by
    manyafandom
    (Bella/Jasper)
    2.
    The Teenage Angst Brigade
    by
    Jandco
    (Bella/Emmett)
    3.
    Calification
    by
    ExploitingReality
    (Bella/Jasper)


    Best Slash/FemSlash Kiss


    1.
    All I Ever Knew
    by
    manyafandom
    (Edward/Jasper)
    2.
    The Trip Home
    by
    Mskathy
    (Edward/Jasper)
    3.
    At The Deep End
    by
    Naelany
    (Edward/Jasper)


    Most Original Kiss Scene



    Kiss You Waited Longest For


    Admittedly, people had some trouble remembering kisses. I had at least 10 come to me and confess that they just couldn't recall any favorite kissing scenes. This was somewhat bothersome. Kisses are supposed to be so significant to romance, and -- lets face it -- a good portion of Twi FF is surely romance. So my first conundrum was this: How to make fic kisses memorable?

    I asked three of the survey winners to expound on their knowledge of kisses.

    Jfly/Thallium81 on memorable first kisses:
    Well, that kiss was important to the story-- a first kiss should be important to the story. It was the sledgehammer that brought down the wall. There was anticipation, tension, desire, release. It was chapter 17. In my current story, I've posted 25 chapters, but the characters haven't kissed, so again, it looms- readers ask for it all the time. I remember that from FItE as well. If there is ever a kiss between B & E in Sanctuary, readers may just stop reading after that. Nothing more to want.

    Well, I think that [descriptiveness] really depends on the characters. I don't know that I would declare a set formula for it, but for me, the first kiss engages all the senses. It's the first time the lovers are THAT close, THAT intimate, so it's about smell and taste and feel and sounds. There's a lot going on in FItE- the venom was kind of intoxicating. It was sweet tasting and also anesthetic in a way, so her reaction to that was important, and Edward's reactions are equally important, even though it's not in his POV. He still has reactions through bella's experience of the moment.


    Manyafandom on slash kisses:
    We all want romance and heat and passion and love and intimacy and a connection when we read characters kissing. It's the moment we all want and wait for, the first kiss and all the kisses afterward. But with two men doing the kissing the dynamic changes. It's not chicks with dicks, these are MEN! They want to be manly, even if they are in love or lust or curious about the man they are about to lay one on. It's all about balancing the emotions and the physical while still keeping a strong male voice in the narrative. With a man on man kiss the participants might want to exert their masculinity and dominance, reassuring themselves and the other party that they are in fact men and not women.


    SorceressCirce on chaste kisses:
    A lot of times, chaste kisses - and touches - are completely forgotten in the race to get to the more graphic sort of material. It happens in both real life and fanfiction. Once you've reached a certain level of physical intimacy once, it's easy to bypass that the next time. I think it's a shame though - a good chaste kiss can really build all sorts of intimacy and excitement. It's the same idea as making out without it going anywhere - it gives you a chance to focus on that specific act, seeing how soft his lips are, how her breath feels against your skin, and just finding that connection without getting lost in the sort or randy excitement later on.


    Fun Fact: Men who kiss their wives every morning before going to work live 5 years longer than men who don't.


    Tuesday, June 16, 2009

    Perceptions of Popular Fanfic Posting Sites. An authors view




    First of all, for those of you who are unaware, I write a little music blog called Music Sundays. This summer we will be running a series of playlist reviews written by over 30 fanfiction authors and readers. A challenge of sorts, we are sending these fantastic people a playlist from an anonymous author that they must review. These reviews will be posted on Sundays and Wednesdays throughout the summer and we strongly encourage reader involvement to get the most songs out there. Compiled playlists will be available on imeem for the duration of summer so it's a good chance to get to know some new music and to reminisce about your love of older tunes as well.

    Now, on with our show.


    This week I decided to take a decidedly different approach to my article by abandoning my focus group and asking as many people as possible their perceptions and usage of fanfiction posting sights. I put out a survey for a short period of time on my LiveJournal page but also linked to it on The Gazebo, a live journal community, my gmail chatbox (which is very diverse) and Twitter (follow me!). This way, I would avoid asking people if they liked FanFiction.net ON FFN or if they liked Twilighted ON Twilighted. It seemed the fair way to get perceptions of the 2 biggies, as well as the smaller sights around our fandom. I mention this early because there are some comments geared toward loving Live Journal and I will be the first to admit that Live Journal can be intimidating if you don't know how to use it. I, still, have never really searched LJ and I know that many haven't scratched the surface of everything they have to offer. It's broad spectrum style is not connected solely with fanfiction, fandom or really anything at all. You can belong just to belong. That said, though, you do have to BELONG to comment, so I did make sure that non-LJ users could comment by emailing me. It was an impressive response to say the least. I did promise that I would give everyone credit for participating. So there is a long list of credits to this post. I won't apologize for that. I am eternally grateful for having such a community and those who were willing to take a few moments out of their Monday evening to humor me deserve recognition and deserve you reading their stories. Our fandom wouldn't exist without the support of others, this blog would not exist. It is important.

    Posting Fanfiction, where to go?


    Truly I could have asked "FFn or Twilighted" as these are the two biggest answers by far. Some post on both, some also post on their LJ accounts or on smaller shipping or all canon sights.

    The perceptions of these sights is what is most interesting. I find that even if people use them they don't necessarily like everything about them. Also, the comments about Twilighted were often about their forums and not about the stories themselves. I was on Twilighted before the explosion of new fics/people. In fact, the story that I am still working on is #1000, meaning (I assume) that it was the one thousanth story to be posted there. I don't even know what number they are on now. I remember a time when my story was on the front page of the forum for weeks last fall. Yesterday someone brought it out of oblivion to ask when I will be updating (this week, if jfly has time on vacation to beta it. my hiatus as a fanfic AUTHOR has been far too long)


    Here is a list of perceptions of Fanfiction.net, Twilighted and Live Journal taken from a broad spectrum sampling of people who use all three sights.

    Fanfiction.net: The Good, The Bad and the Ugly


    Standard huge lots and lots of tweens, .. well, lots and lots of everybody rather vast and sometimes a bit confusing to find anything. Easy to post, easy on the eyes 14 Year Olds writing Pr0n, sifting through lots of trash to find a single gem Addiction. Very author and reader friendly The place to go for fanfiction 12 yr olz hoo wrt trth r dare fics lik abt EDWARD FUCKING CULLEN It's author friendly and allows me to quantify my readership accurately. lots of stories, wish it was easier to search for fics... that they had more options easy to post easy 15 year-olds writing horrible smut and taking it as a personal affront if there is any kind of conflict between their favorite characters.the basics (i.e. where it starts) UGH! CHAOS AND IDIOTS! easy to use and read, but looots of crappy fic I love looking at the traffic graph - and it's easy to use easy Easy to read, easy to post, but if you're looking for something good to read, it's like shopping at KMart, you have to wade through a lot of crap before you find something worthwhile The Pit Smutty crap Occasional gem. Lots of bad fics, some good ones. Fics get lost in the crowd. easy to use, cool way to view traffic to your story, & a lot of bad stories Easy to use, easy to read, customizing is nice. Impossible to find good fic by chance. Easy to read and post Easier to post and manage, however I wouldn't search for a new fic to read using ff, there's just too much. Super easy to post chapters. Have to rely on Favorites to find good stuff to read. Easy, vast and diverse. It's quick, easy and convenient. Plus, it's easy on the eyes, especially for someone like me who can't see worth a damn without the screen all up in my face and squinting like crazy because I can't be bothered to find my glasses. techno fail, too many stories with bad plots, 13 year olds reading BDSM Easy reading, large amount of resources, and 'story alerts' Ease of posting (as a writer); teenagers & terrible grammar overloaded! kind of the "everything" place. All fandoms, all kinds of ahem, writers. under-rated. Yup, people like to give out about it but it is a great resource and anyone with half a brain can figure out how to avoid the cringe stories.Easy and Popular Basic but Vast Everything The Pit Obsessed


    Twilighted: A bit better but has it's issues


    naughty flashy Pictures higher quality Twilight FF Cliquey Easy to find readable fics. I never have to read that someone "shuttered." Waiting for validation makes me overly anxious. God, I hate that fucking annoying background. But I love the forums.
    less exclusive than it used to be Good friends, I started there and it is somewhere where I always feel comfortable and because of it I have met a lot of amazing people. Cliquey Smut My retinas are burning I could gestate a full term baby in the time it takes for my fic to get validated very hard to upload and get validated on. It is a cool that you can upload banners though.This may make me sound old, but my eyes cannot take the black background and white writing. Reading there makes me think I'm on shrooms or something. The white text seems to move. I used to hear that this was THE PLACE to go for intelligent discussion and fic that is head and shoulders above the rest. I think that it might only be true if you're a strict Edward/Bella crowd. Don't read too many fics over there. And my eyes hurt from the dark background/ white text. do you even validate anymore? White text goth victoria's secret background, rpf abounds, but really lovely people forever long validation and white on black text often bothersome, but good forums
    Less easy better quality Too freaking long to validate. Love the forums. UGH! CHAOS ON A BLACK BACKGROUND!
    The Good Old Days clique-ish fad fanfiction that doesn't make me claw my eyes out with grammar problems Big Red Logo Complicated and Cliquey
    Some bad fics, mostly good. Colour scheme SUCKS. The red/black kills my eyes. i used to think it was exclusive until they accepted my story. annoying to use b/c of the colors Pretty banners Painful to try to read, a hassle to switch formats, but the forums are great. A real refuge after BD came out. Too many graphics though. Aside from the validation period - which is understandable but still highly annoying - the fact that I can't get on there from my cell phone or that when I do, I've gotta sign in every other minute just pisses me off something fierce. I dislike waiting to be approved, and having to re-login a hundred time while I'm there (plus the background hurts my eyes). I use it mostly to archive and meet other authors. Hurts my eyes to read, but an easier place to find new fics, and a good way to first get acquianted with the Twilight fanfic community. Not a fan of showing the author's reply with the reviews. The background is hard, but at least there are some minimum standards. The first chapter validation takes a while, but once you get going, the validation is pretty quick Higher Quality Smut Filled Cliquey
    There are more and more grammatical errors popping up in the stories. The only difference is that the eleventeen year old writers don't hang there.Too Dark/Too much black great idea in theory. There is a disparity between what is technically well-written and what is actually a good story. Review trends stump me over there.


    Live Journal: Hello? Is this thing on?


    My life. still confuses the hell out of me I need to figure out how to use it
    Gift exchange. that is why I signed up ontd_twatlight and the_gazebo have made my life better the_Gazebo and complete randomness Confusing Complicated Home Can't find fic. Need direct link. Fun but I wouldn't put my fic on there that strange world AG003 inhabits sometimes hard to follow chapters, linking them is annoying for me when I post Cumbersome and complicated. Lj-cut annoys the fuck out of me. A great place to "waste" several hours of life per day. Gazebo.... Pattinsonlife....lolz
    difficult The ultimate consumer of time confusing oh i better check ontd_twatlight & the_gazebo & maybe pattinsonlife Good for fic "extras." No idea HT make it good for fic. I think AG may be the only one who knows how to use this platform well... I don't understand the site enough to be useful. My favorite place to post, it's easy, simple, interactive, and I can link the fic to various communities for the featured subject, ship, etc, like sortofbeautiful Confuses me, pretty much only [go there] for The Gazebo. God, this site makes me feel incredibly stupid. Particulary since I have a decade and a half of internet experience but can't figure the damn thing out. I need to learn coding. A good resource and great communities. I don't really think anything of it, I suppose. I primarily use it for just blogging - er, journaling? - but aside from that, it's just some place that I can fuck around with coding/designing. I have no idea if anyone even sees the story on there. Hard to figure out. If hellacullen hadn't helped me, I'd still be scratching my head. The most frustrating, yet most satisfying place to post, even if no one there reads my fics. It's still pretty (thanks, AG). PAIN IN THE ASS to get started on, but once you do it is absolutely addicting. You can do so many neat things on it, I love it! I've written and read fic on here for years, and I like it, because I can keep everything on the same website. However, if you don't know what you're looking for, it's way more difficult to find good stuff. I mostly rely on others' recommendations for finding stuff here. A hassle I don't generally think of LJ in relation to fanfiction Complicated. I prefer a set format. Coding is way beyond me. Ag's tute was even way beyond me... Plus, I use my LJ for plain old rambling. My preference, Hands down complicated but if I get a direct link I've read some awesome stories.




    Others:
    No, not that scary Nichole Kidman movie.


    JakeandBells.com. a great up and coming resource for all the J/B fans out there.
    Ramblings and Thoughts: clean canon

    Ramblings and Thoughts - perhaps a bit too big for it's boots but has great canon stories and perfect for serious fans or people starting out reading Twific.

    authors note: Really. These were the only ones people listed. Care to comment on ones you like?


    My survey included an area on how you advertise your writing but I am going to forgo that for next time. These results prove that our perceptions of even our favorite places can be harsh. There is room for improvement, yes, but we love them still or we use them because we must.

    whether you agree or disagree with these results, it's important to accept other peoples perceptions as just that. If a sight offends us, a blog post or a thread, the best choice is to just choose not to go there. There are many places for us to go but we are, in fact, a community and thus have to learn how to take the good with the bad. Posting on these sites is something we choose to do. It is our choice to put our work out there to be loved and not-so-loved by many people. At worst, we can be mildly annoyed and at best we can make some very good friends.

    So, do you agree with anyone's perceptions above? Do you feel different? If you have anything to add we would love to hear from you. This is a community after all.



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