tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2291157166360423354.post6197332833947481507..comments2023-06-25T11:02:00.806-05:00Comments on The Lazy, Yet Discerning Ficster: CharacterExploration: Nessie - Stop Groaning and ReadUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2291157166360423354.post-64117221999486331412009-10-25T17:41:28.598-05:002009-10-25T17:41:28.598-05:00Kari, Nice! Jake could get fixed. There's one ...Kari, Nice! Jake could get fixed. There's one idea I hadn't considered! In my discussions with A2E we've found there are several avenues of thought one could take and they could all be correct. The strongest argument is the belief that woves imprint in order to carry on the line, and that I will accept to a point. It's the living forever part that is completely different from the other wolf couples. That is something I feel authors haven't really addressed in fic, as most fics don't go beyond ten years after Nessie's birth. Of course, the idea is fantastical and romantic, and if one wants to leave it at that, it's fine. But I can't help asking the question. How does Nessie keep from having a hundred kids? But like I said, there are several different explanations for this.<br /><br />I had this same problem in Breaking Dawn. I wanted to know how a vampire impregnates a human. The specifics may be technical and perhaps a little gross, but that's all I could concentrate on for the last half of the book. <br /><br />I've actually been reading more and more pregnancy fics lately. They're always "oops" pregnancies. I wonder who influenced that little trend? <br /><br />- KCMiss Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06005334825453970155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2291157166360423354.post-61300539681933128722009-10-25T07:53:31.412-05:002009-10-25T07:53:31.412-05:00Hey, Kenosha, to answer your last question, I'...Hey, Kenosha, to answer your last question, I've been considering that myself. I suppose Jake could get fixed (no dog pun intended), but it would have to be a really fast surgery. :)<br /><br />Either that, or Nessie could practice abstinence. In my fic, birth control pills work for her, been again, I'm ignoring the whole science thing - because I really think it's a bit ridiculous to even try to apply science to vampires, or half-vampires in Nessie's case.<br /><br />It's my opinion that SM intended Jake and Ness to breed, and that's the only thing I'm basing her fertility on.<br /><br />My opinion is completely subjective, and I realize people have a problem with fertile Nessie, but I made the decision to ignore that and write her as I wish.<br /><br />-KariKarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10860756752614568592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2291157166360423354.post-68516091158808181222009-10-25T07:43:57.269-05:002009-10-25T07:43:57.269-05:00Crimsoncrow, for the purposes on my fic, I deliber...Crimsoncrow, for the purposes on my fic, I deliberately decided to ignore sceience and write a fertile Nessie. My reasons being?<br /><br />Because it's a piece of fantasy fiction about a half-vampire and a werewolf. 'Nuff said. :)<br /><br />-KariKarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10860756752614568592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2291157166360423354.post-55817362879993428682009-10-24T11:57:09.311-05:002009-10-24T11:57:09.311-05:00That's an excellent argument, crimsoncrow. I d...That's an excellent argument, crimsoncrow. I don't think I've read that particular detail in a fic yet. I've discussed and thought about the possibilites of Nessie's fertility more than I care to admit, but fics tend to ignore those specifics. If she can have children, I just want to know what's going to prevent her from having hundreds of children. <br /><br />- KenoshaChickMiss Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06005334825453970155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2291157166360423354.post-761488464335941242009-10-23T10:16:12.619-05:002009-10-23T10:16:12.619-05:00Really late with this but something dawned on me. ...Really late with this but something dawned on me. Women are born with a certain amount of eggs, so unless her eggs regenerate, I don't think it's possible for her to have babies for her whole immortal life. If anything she'd probably only be furtile for the first part of her life before they ran out like every woman's does. <br /><br />...Sorry, just wanted to make that one comment. You guys did a wonderful job with this. It was definitely thought provoking since I've been brainstorming on that for a while (other immortal women on tv or read about helped keep the thought in my head).<br /><br />~KyreneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2291157166360423354.post-1532618586577838062009-10-21T20:16:28.739-05:002009-10-21T20:16:28.739-05:00Excellent! I can't believe I missed this when ...Excellent! I can't believe I missed this when it first posted, as I was looking forward to it. Horizons is really where I base Nessie from, mostly because I haven't read too many with her starring, but I love how she takes control in a way and seeks Benward out. I personally like Nessie, although BD creeps me out, but I like when we seen her stubborn like both Edward and Bella and them having to deal with it! I also enjoy how Bella and Edward eventually have a child that is "their age" it just cracks me up! Anyway...I digress. Great article!sariedeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455672449942116222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2291157166360423354.post-86011592430407543502009-10-08T19:09:29.998-05:002009-10-08T19:09:29.998-05:00That's an interesting point, Shannon. So many ...That's an interesting point, Shannon. So many of the Daddywards I have read have Jacob and Nessie getting together under his radar. Apparently, even with mind-reading and every other vampire ability, he's just as oblivious as Charlie.Miss Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06005334825453970155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2291157166360423354.post-67350595502063488962009-10-06T14:46:56.221-05:002009-10-06T14:46:56.221-05:00Oh my....can I just jump a little since my fic was...Oh my....can I just jump a little since my fic was noted? I'm stoked.<br /><br />I'm actually a bit of a fan of Nessie...to me she's the last corner of ff that hasn't really been explored that much...is it the fail of BD that put's people off reading/writing post BD stuff? I don't know but actually I think it's a shame because there is so much scope in post BD territory, kind of like the last frontier or something.<br /><br />ccocd (aka Christina Cooner/wonkeygirl)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2291157166360423354.post-47170504274300925062009-10-06T13:22:30.569-05:002009-10-06T13:22:30.569-05:00Great article ladies! You know, this whole thing g...Great article ladies! You know, this whole thing got me thinking how one of my pet peeves in Nessie fics is actually the portrayal of Edward. I sorta don't buy any 17 year old mind-reading vampire (especially given the way he acted with Bella) being able to treat his hormonal teenage daughter in a sane manner. Like, HOW COULD HE? I sorta feel like even the wisest, smartest of children would have to react to that. Of course, I didn't think of that at the time you guys asked me about my pet peeves... but anyhoo, it was my biggest reason for giving Nessie an attitude. She's a smart aleck, but like... I don't know how you couldn't react that way in her position? unless you were just boring. Ew. Boring.Shannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02561522780035839951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2291157166360423354.post-18737425598693923852009-10-06T12:03:56.185-05:002009-10-06T12:03:56.185-05:00I will admit that the only Nessie fic that I'v...I will admit that the only Nessie fic that I've read with any enjoyment is In Pursuit of Normalcy. So yes, I'm a bit biased to that story. Now, having said that - I want to address the pet peeve of Nessie running away. I believe that Nessie leaving the safety and comfort of not just her family, but also the friends that I'm sure she's developed in La Push, in order to figure out what's going on in her head and in her heart is actually a necessary plot point. She has spent all of her growing up years surrounded by supernatural creatures that even in their uniqueness are still different from herself. There's got to be a bit of confusion and angst in that. She's sheltered, but smart; loved, but smothered; a woman, but otherworldly. She's an enigma to those that love her the most as no one really knows how she's going to grow up, how the imprinting will influence her choices, and who she'll want to be.<br /><br />I would much prefer to read a Nessie that's willing to leave all the comfort, love, and let's face it - money, behind in order to form her own opinion without the influence of the strong personalities that surround her. Not one character is the Twilight saga is a doormat, so why would it make sense for Nessie not to strike out on her own? Nessie as a strong, independent, and free thinking woman is a much better read than some meek little mouse that never ventures behind the boundaries her family has set for her.<br /><br />Nessie leaving also allows the reader to see the other side of the imprint. How does her striking out on her own effect Jacob? Does he suffer physical pain? Does he allow her the freedom or keep an eye on her from the shadows without her knowledge? And what happens when Nessie's done figuring things out for herself? Does it mean that Jacob finally gets a happy ending? <br /><br />You can't have a good story without some angst and drama. I think the IPoN provides a great opportunity to see Nessie as a real person with real turmoil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2291157166360423354.post-65369340632028615772009-10-06T09:49:04.559-05:002009-10-06T09:49:04.559-05:00As much as I search for Nessie stories I hate most...As much as I search for Nessie stories I hate most. But Horizons is the one that owned me and still owns me. It's one of my favorite stories hands down. Nessie was written with so my heart, you felt every emotion. I literally cried when I first started reading it, I just wanted to hug Nessie.bbwravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08576965595906416136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2291157166360423354.post-45728247335892052912009-10-06T09:13:48.825-05:002009-10-06T09:13:48.825-05:00And yes, my Nessie screws Jake six ways 'til S...And yes, my Nessie screws Jake six ways 'til Sunday on her seventh birthday - even though I make it clear that Nessie was physically attracted to him for a while before that. But my whole point is that I wanted it to be a purely animal aspect of the imprinting that assured procreation. (But then, if you don't like the idea of Pregnant Nessie, I don't suppose you'd like that idea.) Plus, it was just hot. ;)<br /><br />But to each his own, I suppose.<br /><br />Again, thanks for the rec!<br /><br />-KariKarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10860756752614568592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2291157166360423354.post-73843796178509583212009-10-06T08:56:46.904-05:002009-10-06T08:56:46.904-05:00Really? My fic was the most popular response when...Really? My fic was the most popular response when you asked readers about their personal faves? :D<br /><br />Anywho, great article, and thank you for mentioning In Pursuit of Normalcy.<br /><br />**Yes, my Nessie is pregnant. No, I don't have a scientific explanation for it. Yes, I'm okay with that.**Karihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10860756752614568592noreply@blogger.com